right there. Use Teflon tape and a little pipe dope before you screw them in, to be sure they won’t leak. Do as Dennis suggests and buy a bung and fit into the main drain. A brief video to explain the filtration system of your pool Energy Awareness Month – 7 Ways to Save Around the Pool, Has Fall Landed in your Pool? Set the main drain. Im from Dallas as well living in Rowlett now, after 5 years active duty Marine Corps and Doing Home Improvment/Landscaping. Make sure that you do not install this wall panel upside down, the hole should be about a foot below the top of the panel. Your floor material should come right up to the very top of the main drain pots. I hooked the vac hose into the the hole that sucks to the pump, and the other end of the hose to the other hole in the skimmer and my son dove in and could feel the suction at, the bottom drain. Give us a call at 800-288-7946, and ask to speak to the Pool Experts. Also, I'd double check what you were told about one hole in the skimmer going directly back to the pump and the other being connected via the bottom drain. Usually the port farthest from the pool edge is the pipe that goes to the pump, and the port closest to the pool goes to the main drain or equalizer line. Disabling main drains may, however, impact water circulation patterns in the pool, resulting So, to the question of rigid or flex? What you are looking for is a 'Skimmer Float Check Valve' I just drained and patched my pool and cleaned the entire system with an air compressor, water hose and a leaf blower. Display as a link instead, × Opening the main drain and then closing the cleaner valve. It has a sliding flapper that allows you to adjust the proportion of skimmer/main drain water getting pulled in. These can be upgraded in new or refurbished swimming pools thanks to ColorMagic. Your sweeping idea is incorrect. Our vinyl pool kits use Hayward skimmers, other manufacturers of pool skimmers may be slightly different to install. I plan to set the filter to backwash when I vacuum if there is a ton of crap at the bottom. Remove the 4 screws and face plate and store this safely until the liner is installed. I suggest the duct tape. To install the main drains into a vinyl pool, first remove the cover and face plate off of each main drain pot, and tape over the opening, covering the â¦ Protein skimmers remove waste from your aquarium water before it has a chance to break down into nitrate and phosphate. How to Correct Pool Water Circulation. You can save the pieces you cut out to use as future vinyl patch material.To plumb the skimmer, you will first notice that there are two holes in the bottom of the skimmer. I am in Dallas TX but, the water is still tooo cold for me! Yep, I am normally about 80% skimmer and 20% drain for max skimming. There is a 2″ plug included with each main drain you will use that to plug the bottom hole in each main drain. BERMUDAâ¢ Gunite Skimmer Installation and Users Guide 1 POOL SKIMMER LAYOUT AND SUCTION LINE SIZING NOTE: In any installation, there should be at least two main drains at least three feet apart in addition to any skimmers installed. I only switch to 80% drain when brushing the pool so â¦ After the liner is installed and you have a few inches of water in the bottom of the pool you can now carefully go down to the drains and you’ll see the impressions of the screw holes through the liner. Lavishlandscapes1@gmail.com (found on Facebook). Keeping the 2 openings at the bottom of the skimmer open, the pump will pull water from the second hole (drain opening) to lower the pool.
. To start, remove the face plate and screws on your skimmer, and put these in a box or bag, someplace safe. April 23, 2010 in All Swimming Pools Types. And all the equipment pad plumbing, what you see – is done with rigid PVC pipe. DRAIN AND SKIMMER BOTH OPEN - With the handle lined up with the middle port, the valve is completly open to all ports. Slide the flap over the main drain pipe to reduce flow from the main drain, âbottom-upâ while increasing the skimming action, or âtop-downâ flow into the skimmer. skimmer, less flow through main drains); reduce port size for less flow through skimmer and more flow through main drains. Hot Tub Covers & Year-Round Outdoor Spas – Cover Smart. Use a proper thread sealant so there wonât be any air leaks. Then connect your PVC pipe to the fitting with primer and glue, and run the line all the way to the equipment pad. Also, I don't see the point to running more pipe between the skimmers and the bottom drain. http://www.pentairpool.com/pdfs/U-3SkimmerIG.pdf. Most of the dirt and debris that sinks exits the pool through these drains. Seconded Dennis, especially as main drains don't actually do very much. Remove the skimmer basket and locate the two holes at the bottom of the skimmer. Thanks for any info! Use your vacuum head (funnel shaped tool) with a plug in the end (where the vacuum hose connects) Use this to seal the top of the skimmer strainer ; just like you would to vacuum. Most pools have at least two returns, usually one on each end. I'm no expert here, but in my skimmer basket those two holes are different sizes. Our inground pool kits include 100 ft of schedule 40 flex pipe. Put Teflon tape and a little pipe dope on the threads to seal them tightly. SUCTION SIDE SETUP - This picture shows a typical diverter valve configuration for the suction side for a pool with a main drain, a skimmer and a suction line for a cleaner.. Once the MTA is installed, glue a â¦ Line up one of the main drain gaskets to the screw holes, and attach it to the main drain with either gasket cement or a few small strips of duct tape. Install the skimmer vacuum in the skimmer and connect to vacuum hose. Swimming Pool Main Drains must be installed in accordance with the VIRGINIA GRAEME BAKER POOL AND SPA SAFETY ACT and all applicable ASME/ANSI safety standards. By Establish the flow for the main drain and skimmer by shutting off valve B. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. OPERATION WITH FLOAT VALVE & EQUALIZER CHECK VALVE The Equalizer Check Valve Assembly screws into the main drain port and is used in tandem with the float valve assembly. Insert âOâ Ring in SP1082GV Valve Housing and place in bottom of skimmer; Port âAâ over MAIN DRAIN line port (front); Port âBâ over PUMP PORT (rear connection). I found a link that you should check out that relates to your problem and has a picture diagram that shows exactly how your pool is set up and why your not getting suction like my pool hince the forum I found and now replying to you at. I use a few feet of rigid pipe connected to the skimmer and return, and then also coming out of the ground at the equipment pad. Failure to follow instructions can cause severe injury and/or death. The main drain line is a possibility, though small, in my experience. All valves open will not hurt the equipment, but the cleaner will not operate correctly. Place the skimmer on the outside of the pool wall panel with the skimmer cut out; there are 4 holding screws that go from the inside of the pool wall into the skimmer body. Black poly pipe is more subject to leaking down the road, than using glued PVC pipe and joints.Another option for plumbing an inground pool kit, not so common anymore, is to use black poly pipe and barbed fittings. Winterizing this type of Combination skimmer involves blowing air through the main drain hole, and then (very) quickly switching the air hose with a winter plug, tightened up very quickly, â¦ I have a vaccume head with looooong hose and pole I can use to clean the bottom of pool, but I thought you were supposed to just brush the pool bottom toward the deep end so that the drain would suck it out. Having any main drain suction reduces the skimmer action. It was surprising what came out of the pool. Toddsnake, × You need a skimmer diverter. Dirt enters from the surface of the water so skimming is the best action. The other type of skimmer plumbing has two separate ports, one pipe that goes directly to the main drain or to an equalizer line, while the other goes directly to the pump. To vacuum the pool you connect the hose to the vac head and the other end into the suction hole in the skimmer. PoolSpaForum.com If you’re using black pipe you will connect sections using poly grey fittings with barbs on the end. This is more than likely the side port adjustment. That's how mine is. My understanding of the normal functioning of the bottom drain versus the skimmers is the same as yours Todd. Seems to be trial-and-error setting it where you want it. Proper water chemistry is crucial to keeping the water from getting cloudy or algae from growing. This allows flexibility for plumbing, but you will only use one hole on an inground vinyl pool. *American National Standards Institute and published by the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. Now, I will admit, my setup is pretty stout, in that I have 2" piping from the skimmer as well as 2" piping at the main drains (dual main drains, connected via 2" and tee'd to 2") with all 2" lines for the suction and the return side (I did use 1.5" line to go to the second return, but it was 2" up until it tee'd off). Cut the pipe in the center and install a 1.5″ Tee fitting, with the third port of the tee facing a horizontal direction, either 3 or 9 o’clock.These secondary ports in the main drain pot give some plumbing flexibility, or they can be used with a spring loaded hydrostatic plug, for areas that have a very high water table. I was told the hole closest to the pool wall is from the bottom drain and the other one in where the suction is to the pump. I'm a Newb to this pool stuff......feel free to set me straight!!!!!!! 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